Goku departs Earth and begins training under Whis. But AP entirely based on punching is utterly ridiculous. The Greatest Showdown of all Time! @Zenkai Except the fact both of them can do anything to Jiren is the obvious proof at how weakened Jiren is. Powered by the hopes of humanity, Trunks strikes back at Zamasu! I like how there's still absolutely 0 proof that Super Shenron, or any dragons in DB, can use their power in actual combat when they can't make wishes for themselves as depicted the entire series. Since the abilities are done by their staff. There is physical AP (punching power) and there's hax based AP. None of the other dragons are physically as powerful as their wish granting restoration feats. At the least, "Possibly High 3-A" should be considered. Dragon Ball Super is a Japanese anime series that serves as the direct sequel to Dragon Ball Z. Vegeta powers up and engages Goku Black who seems to be completely uninterested. Looks like everything is done except for Android 17 & DBS Frieza tiering upgrades and new keys for ToP. After being resurrected for 24 hours, Frieza finds himself targeted by Universe 9. Which One Is Going to Win?! Goku fights Goku Black and Future Zamasu, but he proves to be powerless against the two. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! My point with Toppo still stands. Umm, font go overboard. Jaco travels to Earth to give out a warning of Frieza's arrival, The battle between Frieza's Army and the Z-Fighters, Ginyu switches bodies with Tagoma and wreaks havoc on the Z-Fighters, Goku and Vegeta hear of Frieza's return and quickly teleport to Earth. Your counter-argument was you saying it was not a fallacy. Feel free to add the new abilities, along with Resurrection (If Unite My Rice did not add it already). I'm sorry, but that's kind of a ridiculous argument. The battle between Goku and Duplicate Vegeta Continues. All the angels have it and he would likely too. Whis and Beerus are worried over Zeno's request to meet Goku and what it could mean for their universe. Why do people need to specify Supa Shenron's power being used in fights? @Aeyu Giving upgrades with no actual feats at all due to clearly hyperbolic statements like "he can do anything" is disingenuous. The Greatest Showdown of All Time! Furthermore, Jiren powered back up at that time and the characters said he has gotten past his issues. Do we need actually feat if something is heavily implied? But who knows, maybe Goku learns the ability Kaioshins and Buu have to teleport without Ki sensing and combine it with Ultra Instant to make it 100% instantaneous combat speed in the next generation. Should Goku not be Low 2-C because he can't lift a universe? How many times is it going to be called PIS though just because of previous events? Whose Wish Will Be Granted? Back to the Old Familiar Training Ground! Find them Out! A Valiant Fight! Their search for Moro leads them to New Namek, but they fail to stop his plan to use the Namekians' Dragon Balls to restore his lost youth and release all criminals in the Galactic Patrol's custody. An Unexpectedly Uphill Battle! Anyway, I also think that 17 and Frieza should be Low 2-C or High 3-A after breaking through their limits. kind of gives it away. And Goku Goes on a Training Journey?! But it does with mine, which you are missing. Which he never appeared, so still speculation and doesnt change my point. Beyond their limit=/=Infinitely stronger. Reruns of the series returned to a Saturday night non-Toonami time slot from January 5, 2019 to September 28, 2019, this time airing at 8:30 PM. Krillin and 18 fight off fighters from other universes. He didn't go all out when he tried to punch Goku in ssjb and Whis stating they were equal? Still doesn't count. Despite achieving a new transformation called Golden Frieza, he is defeated by Goku and Vegeta, who have both mastered the Super Saiyan Blue transformation. Will Goku defeat the copy in time to save Vegeta? I did provide evidence, in that the size isn't a feat like the level of power displayed by wish granting, which has consistently been shown to be on the level of whoever created the dragons (Like dragons not being able to grant wishes which involve affecting those more powerful than said master). After successfully becoming a Super Saiyan God, Goku challenges Beerus to another fight. Something being agreed on before means nothing. This episode has been pretty weird on the scaling. Vegeta's Sacrifice Strike! It may have shown a feat like that with eating galaxies and whatnot and its size and all that, but what's to logically say it can't do what it's stated to be able to do, which is "anything"? Therefore I don't support upgrading him. Classic editor History Talk (0) Share. Whis also resurrects Frieza. Edit: Also, I am jetting before this gets ugly tbh. Dragon Ball Super is a Japanese anime series that serves as the direct sequel to Dragon Ball Z.It aired in Japan on Fuji TV from July 5, 2015 to March 25, 2018, lasting 131 episodes.. The Elder Scrolls metaphysics & philosophy, First of all, this was heavily agreed upon by others before, https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:1518072, Portrayed as slightly superior but roughly comparable to Krillin twice, Was getting blitzed by a Katopesla who was x4,000 times slower than a Katopesla who a casual Base Vegeta blitzed, and who a casual Base Vegeta also stomped when his strength was amped by x4,000, Got rescued from Katopesla by a casual 17 who blitzed Katopesla and beat him up, Got rescued by 17 again when Kefla was powering up, she was sent flying and would have dropped out of the arena. But 17 likely grew stronger as well. 17 to enter the tournament. The 6th Universe's Mightiest Warrior! Far away, the powerful God of Destruction, Beerus, awakens to a prophecy revealing his demise at the hands of an even more formidable being. Gohan tests his new power fighting against Lavender, The third match between Goku and Bergamo starts, Toppo the warrior from Universe 11 challenges Goku to a battle, thinking the latter is pure-evil, While waiting for Bulma to give birth, Goku and Gohan think about who to recruit for the Tournament of Power, Gohan and Goku visit Krillin and 18 to ask if they want to join the Tournament of Power. It's not an AP feat at all. It's impossible to know the difference between, for exemple, destroying a 4D Cube and a 4D Universe because there is no mathematical way of calculating "4D Energy". A Miraculous Conclusion! Dang it Akira....he should really come up with better names. In an attempt to steal the delicious food of Universe 7's earth; Champa challenges Beerus to a friendly game of baseball. Entertainment for the Asian market. If anything he would get an At Least Universal+ rating, with Multi-Universal range. The Captain Is Someone Stronger Than Goku. Jiren is still fending off Vegeta and Goku, as Frieza fights Dyspo at his must powerful requiring the help of Gohan in a sacrificial manner. さらば悟空! After Kale and Caulifia both challenge him, Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan God forcing the duo to fuse into a new warrior. Although Goku loses the Super Saiyan God form, he absorbs and retains its power, and continues to fight Beerus. In the anime, when the trio of deities arrive, he begins describing all of the modifications to the robots and cyborgs who were specifically modified to compete in the Tournament of Power. I think resurrection and teleporation can be added now to the profiles since it's blatent. Deathmatch with a Furtive Attacker! He is awarded one wish from the Super Dragon Balls, which he uses to restore all of the erased universes. [131] A Dragon Ball Super episode received a major complaint by the Broadcasting Ethics and Program Improvement Organization as the part of the story involved Master Roshi making multiple sexual attacks on the female character Yurin. Reality Warping tbh, maybe Life and Death/Soul Manipulation. Oh, you mean that thing that's happened like 10 times now by this point? Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Ok. Now i'm done. Despair Redux! The 2nd Universe's Witchy Warriors! [13] After the series finale premiered on the block on October 5, 2019, the series went into reruns beginning with episode 128. If not, they should at least get a likely. Tell me here when you are done. For that matter, we don't know if the GP or the angels were affected, either. [34], The first opening theme song for episodes 1 to 76 is "Chōzetsu☆Dynamic!" [23][24] On December 7, 2016, IGN reported that the Funimation English dub of Dragon Ball Super would air on Adult Swim Saturdays at 8 p.m. with an encore showing in their Toonami block later that night at 11:30 p.m. starting on January 7, 2017. Not to mention that you can't have your cake and eat it too when saying Low 2-C is infinitely above 3-A. [39] The third ending song for episodes 26 to 36 is "Usubeni" (薄紅, "Light Pink") by the band Lacco Tower. Goku struggled against several opponents while in SSJB/SSJG before as well. @Melee I don't mind Zeno having an "Unknown" as well. It needs a note because, like the other dragons, its 2-C key is completely useless in combat. Broadcast Run Later, Beerus wins a rock-paper-scissors contest against Oolong, and decides to destroy Earth. Find actual feats or statements of punching power of the level of his hax then we'll rate it as such.